Legislature(1995 - 1996)

03/02/1995 01:36 PM Senate TRA

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                     SENATE TRANSPORTATION                                     
                         March 2, 1995                                         
                           1:36 p.m.                                           
                                                                               
  MEMBERS PRESENT                                                              
                                                                               
 Senator Steve Rieger, Chairman                                                
 Senator Robin Taylor, Vice Chair                                              
 Senator Lyda Green                                                            
 Senator Al Adams                                                              
 Senator Georgianna Lincoln                                                    
                                                                               
  MEMBERS ABSENT                                                               
                                                                               
 All members present.                                                          
                                                                               
  COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                           
                                                                               
 Presentation by the Port of Bellingham.                                       
                                                                               
 SENATE BILL NO. 86                                                            
 "An Act relating to issuance of special request commemorative gold            
 rush motor vehicle license plates."                                           
                                                                               
  PREVIOUS SENATE ACTION                                                       
                                                                               
 SB 86 - No previous action to record.                                         
                                                                               
  WITNESS REGISTER                                                             
                                                                               
 Jim Darling, Executive Director                                               
 Port of Bellingham                                                            
 Bellingham, WA                                                                
 POSITION STATEMENT:  Reviewed the history of the ferry terminal and           
                      addressed the community support of the Gateway           
                      to Alaska.                                               
                                                                               
 Bob Hilport, Director                                                         
 Marine Terminals                                                              
 Port of Bellingham                                                            
 625 Cornwall Avenue                                                           
 Bellingham, WA 98276                                                          
 POSITION STATEMENT:  Discussed the multi-modal transportation                 
                      facility.                                                
                                                                               
 Mike Brennan, President                                                       
 Port of Bellingham                                                            
 Bellingham Chamber of Commerce                                                
 1801 Roeder Avenue, #140                                                      
 Bellingham, WA 98225                                                          
 POSITION STATEMENT:  Addressed the Fairhave Passport pamphlet.                
                                                                               
 Dave Bell, Executive Director                                                 
 Fourth Corner Economic Development Group                                      
 1203 Cornwall Street                                                          
 Bellingham, WA 98225                                                          
 POSITION STATEMENT:  Informed the committee of the pivotal location           
                      of Whatcom County.                                       
                                                                               
 Cam Toohey                                                                    
 Staff to Senator Sharp                                                        
 State Capitol                                                                 
 Juneau, Alaska 99801-1182                                                     
 POSITION STATEMENT:  Discussed SB 86.                                         
                                                                               
 Juanita Hensley                                                               
 Department of Public Safety                                                   
 Division of Motor Vehicles                                                    
 P.O. Box 20020                                                                
 Juneau, Alaska                                                                
 POSITION STATEMENT:  Suggested deleting language in order to                  
                      decrease the fiscal note of SB 86.                       
                                                                               
 Senator Sharp                                                                 
 State Capitol                                                                 
 Juneau, Alaska 99801-1182                                                     
 POSITION STATEMENT:  Prime sponsor to SB 86.                                  
                                                                               
  ACTION NARRATIVE                                                             
                                                                               
 TAPE 95-5, SIDE A                                                             
                                                                               
 Number 004                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER called the Senate Transportation meeting to order             
 at 1:36 p.m.  He invited the Port of Bellingham presenters to come            
 forward for their presentation.                                               
                                                                               
 JIM DARLING, Executive Director for the Port of Bellingham, said              
 that the formal relationship between the Port of Bellingham and               
 Alaska began in 1989 when the southern terminus of the ferry system           
 moved from Seattle to Bellingham.  The community, at that time,               
 made an approximately $12 million investment in the port.  Since              
 that time the ridership of the ferry has remained the same or                 
 increased a bit.  He noted that at present, the ferry system is               
 handling approximately 42,000 passengers a year which is a slight             
 increase from the numbers when the terminal was in Seattle.  There            
 is also a multi-modal marine link which transports passengers to              
 the Vancouver and San Juan Islands, under 14,000 passengers per               
 year.                                                                         
 Mr. Darling explained that although they have a 20 year contract              
 with Alaska for the terminal use and a two year ticket contract,              
 the port considers themselves to be in a partnership agreement with           
 Alaska.  The ferry terminal extends the other transportation                  
 businesses in the area which includes aviation.  He stated that               
 they were exploring more direct air transport from Bellingham to              
 Southeast Alaska.  He pointed out that the port is one of the                 
 largest real estate holders in Whatcom county.  Another strong tie            
 to Alaska are the marinas, in particular, those for commercial                
 fishing vessels in the area.  Mr. Darling said that they would                
 present new developments at the Fairhaven Terminal and the new $4             
 million multi-modal facility.                                                 
                                                                               
 Number 081                                                                    
                                                                               
 BOB HILPORT, Director of Marine Terminals for the Port of                     
 Bellingham, handed out packets to the committee members.  The                 
 multi-modal facility will be completed in July and will cost                  
 approximately $4 million of which $1 million will come from the               
 Washington Department of Transportation and federal highway funds.            
 He informed the committee that Greyhound, Trailways, Amtrack, a               
 Bellingham airport connection, and a shopper tram to downtown will            
 all be in the multi-modal facility.  He pointed out that they have            
 co-oped advertising with the Alaska Marine Highway System.  He                
 reviewed the information in the packet he gave to committee                   
 members.                                                                      
                                                                               
 Mr. Hilport viewed the multi-modal facility as a gateway to Alaska            
 and British Columbia.  They will be promoting pocket cruises into             
 the San Juan Islands, the Puget Sound, and perhaps, to Vancouver              
 Island.  He noted that the port is a member of the Southeast Alaska           
 Chamber Committee and the Board of the Alaska State Chamber of                
 Commerce.  He offered to answer any questions.                                
                                                                               
 Number 152                                                                    
                                                                               
 JIM DARLING restated the importance of the reinstatement of                   
 passenger rail service in the multi-modal facility.  He noted that            
 from their perspective this would be more than merely a Southeast             
 Alaska issue.  Amtrak is interested in promoting themselves in the            
 Northwest Corridor.  He said that Amtrak is interested in joint               
 advertising and promotion with Alaska through the Port of                     
 Bellingham.  He mentioned that the multi-modal facility will be               
 housed in a turn of the century building, formerly the Pacific                
 America Fisheries corporate headquarters.  The history of the                 
 fishing industry of Alaska will be preserved through displays                 
 within the facility.                                                          
                                                                               
 MIKE BRENNAN, Director and President of the Bellingham Chamber of             
 Commerce, discussed the cooperation between the port districts and            
 the public and private sectors; an example of this cooperation is             
 the Fairhaven Passport.  This booklet is a directory of services              
 for the area which benefits Bellingham and ferry travelers.  A                
 Whatcom County Passport is the next project for the chamber.  He              
 noted that the Fairhaven Passport had won an award for Best New               
 Product.                                                                      
 Number 215                                                                    
                                                                               
 DAVE BELL, Economic Development Council for Bellingham and                    
 Washington, passed out a directory of all the manufacturers in                
 Whatcom County.  Whatcom County has a population of 147,000 and               
 continues to grow.  He pointed out that the most important aspect             
 of Whatcom County is its pivotal location which has access to                 
 approximately 5 million people; Whatcom County is midway between              
 Vancouver, B.C. and Seattle.  He explained that historically,                 
 Whatcom County's economy resembled that of Alaska's; logging and              
 fishing industries were important to both economies.  Whatcom                 
 County has experienced much growth in diversified manufacturing and           
 services.  The county also has a lot of travelers coming through,             
 approximately 25-30 million Canadian border crossings per year.  He           
 noted that Whatcom County has a lot of educational resources.                 
                                                                               
 MIKE BRENNAN introduced Dan Robbins who is a member of the Chamber            
 Board of Directors for Bellingham.  Mr. Robbins is also the only              
 announced candidate for mayor in Bellingham.                                  
                                                                               
 SENATOR LINCOLN asked if the port could advertise more about                  
 Alaskan services.  MIKE BRENNAN reiterated that joint marketing had           
 been done in the ferry schedule, however, more could be done.  Mr.            
 Brennan commented that the port did have a contract last year with            
 their chamber and their visitor and convention bureau in which a              
 series of workshops were held in Bellingham.  The workshops                   
 attempted to help individuals make connections in Alaska from a               
 commercial and business respect.                                              
                                                                               
 SENATOR LINCOLN inquired as to how the seminars went.  MIKE BRENNAN           
 stated that 40 people attended the first series and 50-60 people              
 attended in later sessions.  People attending were interested in              
 tourism travel while others were local retailers who were                     
 interested in Alaskan products.                                               
                                                                               
 Number 305                                                                    
                                                                               
 BOB HILPORT noted that the port has been attempting to dispel the             
 notion that Alaskans are foreigners.  The new multi-modal facility            
 which is dedicated to transportation would help end that notion.              
 He suggested that an Alaska state trade office in the multi-modal             
 facility would be beneficial to bridging the gap.  In response to             
 Senator Lincoln, Mr. Hilport pointed out the new multi-modal                  
 facility and pertinent information within her packet.                         
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER inquired as to who publishes the Fairhaven Passport           
 pamphlet and who charges and makes a profit from the pamphlet.                
 MIKE BRENNAN said that the pamphlet is a private publication                  
 designed with small advertisers in mind; it just broke even.                  
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER asked what the ferries traveling to Vancouver                 
 Island would look like.  BOB HILPORT explained that they were foot            
 ferries which would offer day service to the islands.  JIM DARLING            
 noted that the port had discussed with the state of Washington a              
 ferry connection with the Alaska ferry which would go out to the              
 islands.                                                                      
                                                                               
 JIM DARLING reiterated that the community has made a substantial              
 investment in the ferry system, and the Gateway to Alaska through             
 their tax dollars.  The community will be investing $1 million in             
 the multi-modal facility, the state of Washington will be investing           
 over $2 million.  He specified that the multi-modal facility would            
 not receive state and federal funding if the ferry system was not             
 located in Bellingham.                                                        
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR informed the committee that the ferry system                   
 operated out of Seattle in the past; the situation was not                    
 comfortable.  Seattle did not attempt to enhance Alaska's operation           
 there nor did they encourage people to visit Alaska.  He expressed            
 appreciation to Bellingham for all that they had done.  The                   
 difficulty will be in continuing the operations of the Alaskan                
 ferry that currently arrives in Bellingham.                                   
                                                                               
 Number 378                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR pointed out that the ferry terminal in Bellingham is           
 used for various activities such as weddings; it is a beautiful               
 facility.                                                                     
                                                                               
 SENATOR LINCOLN asked if there was any more Alaska could do in this           
 partnership in order to have a better relationship while achieving            
 productivity for Alaska.  JIM DARLING reiterated the suggestion of            
 an Alaskan trade office in the new facility.  There should be                 
 aggressiveness with the promotion of trade and commerce.  Mr.                 
 Darling commented that they were impressed with the new                       
 commissioner and director of the marine highway system with regard            
 to more cooperative approaches to the promotion of trade and                  
 commerce.                                                                     
                                                                               
 BOB HILPORT stated that the port has a large real estate division.            
 He discussed the overseas investors who have approached the port;             
 if these potential investors do not know about Washington then they           
 definitely know nothing about Alaska.  This could open up great               
 potential for Alaskan business.  JIM DARLING noted that the                   
 personal presence would be important.                                         
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER thanked the Port of Bellingham for their                      
 presentation.                                                                 
                                                                               
 SHES - 3/2/95                                                                 
                                                                               
        SB  86 COMMEMORATIVE GOLD RUSH LICENSE PLATES                         
                                                                               
 Number 420                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER introduced  SB 86  as the next order of business              
 before the committee.  He recognized that the Department of Public            
 Safety was present for questions.                                             
                                                                               
 CAM TOOHEY, staff to Senator Sharp, stated that SB 86 is similar to           
 the legislation of last year; SB 86 does have a minor change.                 
 SB 86 would allow individuals to celebrate the Gold Rush with the             
 purchase of a commemorative license plate.  The license plate would           
 be designed by the commissioner and the Office of Public Safety in            
 accord with the Gold Rush Task Force.  He acknowledged that the               
 representative from the Department of Public Safety may want to               
 address an amendment that would decrease the fiscal note.                     
                                                                               
 SENATOR ADAMS inquired as to what was added to this legislation               
 when it was HB 407 which was vetoed by former Governor Hickel.                
 CAM TOOHEY explained that HB 407 removed the need for two license             
 plates.                                                                       
                                                                               
 SENATOR ADAMS noted the $17.4 fiscal note, when stating that he had           
 the understanding that the sale of special license plates would               
 absorb the cost of producing them.  Perhaps, the cost of these                
 special license plates could be raised in order to cover the cost             
 of producing them or the sale of special plates could be                      
 eliminated.                                                                   
                                                                               
 JUANITA HENSLEY, the Division of Motor Vehicles, stated that in the           
 past, the costs to produce special plates have not been recovered             
 in their sale.  She did note that the Veteran's license plate has             
 recovered the cost to produce it.  She suggested deleting the                 
 language on line 9, "and color" in order to decrease the fiscal               
 impact of SB 86.                                                              
                                                                               
 Ms. Hensley explained that deleting this language would allow the             
 use of their existing stock of reflective material rather than                
 purchasing a roll for $12,500.  Reflective material must be                   
 purchased by the roll and an order of 1,000 plates must be present            
 before the order can be placed.  Deleting this language would                 
 reduce the costs; the cost of the metal and the design of the plate           
 would be the only costs.                                                      
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR asked if the Ms. Hensley had reviewed the                      
 possibility of plating license plates, a chrome or gold-plated                
 license plate.  He suggested that she investigate that option.                
                                                                               
 Number 487                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR ADAMS asked if the Alaska Gold Rush Centennial Task Force             
 was in place.  CAM TOOHEY replied yes; the task force which is a              
 volunteer organization has been in existence since 1992.                      
                                                                               
 SENATOR LINCOLN inquired as to the cost of the Al-Can Centennial              
 license plate because it seems parallel to this plate.  JUANITA               
 HENSLEY explained that the commemoration of the 50th year of the              
 Alaska Highway plate was developed by private industry.  Through              
 legislation, the license plate was allowed placement on a vehicle             
 for one year only.                                                            
                                                                               
 SENATOR LINCOLN inquired as to the difference in the process of the           
 two plates.  SENATOR SHARP felt that the Commemorative Gold Rush              
 plates could be permanent plates; this may be one of the few                  
 manners in which to receive a new plate.                                      
                                                                               
 JUANITA HENSLEY stated that depending on the design and the color             
 of the license plate, the plate would replace an existing plate.              
 She explained that this license plate would cost $30 plus the                 
 normal registration fee; this is similar to a vanity and a                    
 personalized plate.                                                           
                                                                               
 SENATOR LINCOLN asked what the fiscal note for SB 86 would be if              
 the existing stock of reflective material was used.  JUANITA                  
 HENSLEY said that the fiscal note would decrease by approximately             
 $5,800.                                                                       
                                                                               
 SENATOR LINCOLN questioned why the commissioner would determine the           
 design of this plate; why not the Alaska Gold Rush Centennial Task            
 Force.  CAM TOOHEY informed the committee that the Division of                
 Motor Vehicles wanted the commissioner to have the authority in               
 order to eliminate the possibility of an expensive design or a                
 design that would be too difficult to see by law enforcement.                 
                                                                               
 SENATOR ADAMS asked if there would be uniformity in the cost of               
 this plate in relation to other specialty plates.  JUANITA HENSLEY            
 specified that a vanity plate costs $30 and a custom plate costs              
 $50, both requiring the normal registration fees as well.  She                
 offered to share the list of all the specialty plates and their               
 accounts with the committee.                                                  
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR agreed that the commissioner should oversee the                
 designing process.                                                            
                                                                               
 Number 546                                                                    
                                                                               
 JUANITA HENSLEY emphasized that the reflectablility and the                   
 readability of the license plate would be important for law                   
 enforcement as well as the public.  The University license plate is           
 hard to read and its design did not have oversight by the                     
 commissioner.  SENATOR TAYLOR agreed and recounted his experience             
 with this University plate.                                                   
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER asked if the language needed to be deleted if the             
 commissioner could dictate that the color would come from the                 
 existing stock of reflective materials.  JUANITA HENSLEY felt that            
 deleting the language would eliminate the possibility of using                
 other colors.                                                                 
                                                                               
 SENATOR ADAMS inquired as to Senator Sharp's opinion with regard to           
 the deletion of the language.  SENATOR SHARP stated that it would             
 be acceptable; this suggestion would save money.                              
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR moved to delete the language "and color" on line 9             
 of SB 86.  Without objection, the amendment was adopted.                      
                                                                               
 SENATOR LINCOLN asked if the fiscal note would reflect the                    
 amendment.  CHAIRMAN RIEGER assured the committee that the deletion           
 would be pointed out to the Finance Committee.                                
                                                                               
 JUANITA HENSLEY stated that the fiscal note would be re-worked.               
 She indicated the need to have the estimated number of purchasers             
 of this license plate, then the revenue that the department would             
 collect could be presented as well.                                           
                                                                               
 SENATOR ADAMS moved that CS SB 86(TRA), with its new fiscal note,             
 be moved out of committee with individual recommendations.  Without           
 objections, it was so ordered.                                                
                                                                               
 There being no further business before the committee, the meeting             
 adjourned at 2:17 p.m.                                                        
                                                                               

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